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How do you counter being countered?

Discussion in 'Dota Chat' started by Mimic, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. Mimic

    Mimic Member

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    Yesterday I was playing a game of DotA and I got countered. I was wondering how to counter being countered. For example I pick hero Vengeful Spirit and the enemy pick Spirit Breaker. When we on pick screen I can see that I have been countered but I don't want to repick because Vengeful is such a good hero. What do I do?
     
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  2. mapdesigner

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    Play offline wenga

    Being un expected nullifies caunter picks.

    So roaming am and sapport LC
     
  3. hitsuji

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    Outplay your enemy
     
  4. Equivocal

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  5. Mae Shirayuki

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    My reply: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=283899
     
  6. adapt

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    Counters in DotA are a funny thing. Even in pro games, pro teams very rarely, if ever, pick "hard counters" to enemy picks. Most pro teams have a habit of picking 3-4 heroes for their own specific lineups, and then 1-2 heroes purely to soft counter (almost never hard counter) specific heroes on the enemy team.

    It's the same reason I laugh every time an enemy player picks Silencer or Rubick right after I pick Enigma. You just need to play around it.
     
  7. Louie!

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    Gank them and you'll be fine, then countergank them when you're found.
     
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  8. mapdesigner

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    Do you mean this?

    Q6: what will do if 110 heroes were banned? Its not impossible.

    My suggestion would be to make bans resit for each pair of players

    Edit: you know what, we canmake it first come first serve bases. So every one picks 2 heroes. He gets to select hisfirst pick. If the other guy picked your own pick before you do, then you get to your second pick.
     
  9. flamegod0

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    ask your teammate to counter them?
    git gud?
    or maybe just play around your enemies tactic. like, go rat+farm when they hard counter your enigma and take objective when they made a mistake/you got your core item to counter their counter. like the classical storm orchid vs AM manta scenario.
    no absolute answer as always tho. dota is quite a sandbox game when talking about strategy.
     
  10. Rubz

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  11. Dr_JP

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    When a hero counters you, you must ask:

    Does an active skill counter me? Then proceed to silence/increase lockdown power.

    Does a passive counter me? You might go silver edge.

    Any way, the best way to work around counter is using your team help, because there's no way a hero can counter the whole enemy line up (except very rare scenarios).

    At last, that's the reason why you build specific items in specific situations, like Eul's against silences, BKB's against heavy lockdown power, Defiance/Pipe against heavy magic dmg oriented team, Solar Crest against heavy physical dmg oriented dmg, burst dmg against squishy line ups, and so on...
     
  12. RNGeezus

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    Recognize what counters you and play accordingly. Did they pick silencer to counter me as ember? Go a euls. Did they lastpick viper into a TA? Get lvl 3 in lane and go jungle. If you look at higher level players they will always do what they can do stay alive. Staying alive trumps a nice dmg item because if you're not alive to use the item then you're dead. /logic
     
  13. Nisamraw

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    You can't avoid being countered, unless you last pick.

    But similarly, you can last pick Meepo, or Brood, and free win a game because they have 0 AoE. But that's more because Meepo & brood are flawed by design.