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Discussion in 'Dota Chat' started by Mr. BoB, Jun 16, 2017.

  1. Animus2280

    Animus2280 Member

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    Tbh I wouldn't mind going back to dota 1 but the missing "quality of life" features makes it a real pain.
     
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  2. Sylvanei

    Sylvanei New Member

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    I miss the days when people wouldn't bash every other game if it doesn't fit their very specific requirements for what a good game is.

    I agree that the Blizzard brand attracts players and keeps people around, but that can only go so far. World of Warcraft is seeing one of its lowest member populations ever (roughly 1.5 million players), which is saying something given the game's history.

    SC2 is still a great game to people, regardless of how many people play it or how many people are left playing it currently.

    I know a good number of people play Hearthstone because it directly connects to Warcraft/World of Warcraft's lore. And it's just fun to play. It doesn't have to be taken so seriously that you have an aneurysm every single hour.

    HotS does a lot of things well, and lots of people are enjoying it. People also love the fact that all the characters are basically fanservice, which is another enjoyable thing about the game. What's wrong with another decent MOBA to play if one chooses to do so?

    Overwatch has millions upon millions of people that play it, AFAIK. Maybe less currently. And at least Overwatch promotes positivity and optimism, compared to almost every other MOBA that does little to promote optimism and sometimes even encourages toxicity and negativity. I'm sure it must be terrible playing a game and just enjoying it because it's fun.

    Peace and love pls.
     
  3. Animus2280

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    Like the fact u have to manually click courier and move ur items to inventory
     
  4. InThoX

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    warcraft III is the GOAT RTS, sadly i discovered it when it was alrdy ded. im born '93 , so yea ... pretty much hopped right into dota back then. sadly ill never get a taste of what it mustve been like to live through the wcIII era.
    i dont think we will ever see anything like it again in RTS world (RTS is pretty much obsolete nowadays anyway, kids are not willing to play it).

    would play the shit out of it again if they remaster it
     
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  5. Animus2280

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    there are isolated communities that still play wc3, but i'm not a fan since the imbalances make the game unexciting
     
  6. kamukag3e

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    @Animus2280:
    WC3 does need some minor adjustment but it's pretty much balanced right now.

    Also it's quite hard to create perfect balance, when we're talking about so much variables as 4 races and so much heroes.
     
  7. Animus2280

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    isn't undead still awful and atrocious
     
  8. InThoX

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    duno how it is now, but the only thing i hated as a human player was elf. but u could still beat them. dont think there was imbalance per se, just more favorable matchups&maps for a race. but then again i was in pretty late.
    mirror matches were fuckin cancer thou, unless one player went a different tactic (human fast t3 vs human t2)

    ill never forget when the tanks only cheese came out by humans vs elf. i think theres hardly anything more humilliating and frustrating than losing to that.
     
  9. Siraraz

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    Dunno, The Hive Workshop still seems pretty alive. wc3c.net dead
     
  10. ILLUSETSUNA

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    But we're gonna get stuck in 6.83 again
     
  11. frigidsoul

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    still better than 7.xx era
     
  12. Infrisios

    Infrisios Moderator Staff Member

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    No, it's way too outdated for modern graphics. It's possible to upgrade it, but not really worth it.
    Much more likely they'll use a different engine than the old WC3 one.
     
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  13. kamukag3e

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    @Animus2280:
    Well the problem with Undead in the last couple of years is the Orc being a bit strong against them, they manage to do more than well against the other races, but their lack of representation was due to Orc popularity and their unfavorable match-up in tournaments against those.

    Then again, in the recent years Undead has developed the most and now don't have so much problems against Orc.

    The fact remains that Blade Master is quite powerful and I personally want him to be balanced, you won't see any other hero as first for Orcs, not because they are weak, but because BM is so strong and shadow any other hero in the game with his scaling.

    As far as the WC3 scene - it is very small, but still kicking.
    Chinese scene is the biggest in the competitive sense and with some free-servers like Garena and Eurobattle.net have enough population to present good games for the participants to enjoy custom maps or vanilla/ladder.
     
  14. GoLD-ReaVeR

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    Remastered these days means every female character gets dressed up in a hijab doesn't it?
     
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  15. RashardLewis

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    I'm still playing WC3 DotA All-Stars on ICCup, I'm always never liked Valve greedy ass organizated fake Dota 2
     
  16. MrFrank

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    Which post in old PD did you copy this from?
     
  17. vvjacobo

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    Diablo 2 was great, developers asked for more pay an they had to leave the company.
    Stacraft was great, developers asked for more pay an they had to leave the company.
    Blizzard is a fucking greedy company where only the worst endure.

    They didnt triumph because of company good job, just because they were lucky and hired really good talented people, yet they didn't have the wiseness to keep them. Now the company sucks as the inevitable result.
     
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  18. Bargh

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    Questionable, but I think in 6.83 you atleast had early-game agression compared to safety-nets of 7+. You can counter op late-snipers by just dcing and going for another game tho :cat:
     
  19. Animus2280

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    i think people pining for the old dota 1 days is misplaced nostalgia, and the sooner you accept 99.9% of players are either toxic wastedumps or atrociously low skilled idiots, the happier you'll be

    the way the game is designed is the #1 cause of the toxicity, tbh, but that's another subject. i guarantee if u stop playing dota and just do something else (play another game, stop playign games altogether, whatever) you won't want to come back after 3 or so months
     
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  20. Daddy Sven

    Daddy Sven Moderator Staff Member

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    Sniper was never OP in 6.83 to begin with. The hero's so called OP ability deals more than twice as much damage now and can be spammed like crazy. He was still squish, he was still easy to gank, he however finally had an ability which allowed him to get some early kills as well.
     
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